Dear members and friends of ipernity,
1) Quota for adding to a group.
This relates to groups having a limit on the number of contributions allowed in a day/week/month time frame. This was controlled on exact 24 hour intervals before the window allowing further additions was again opened. With this revision, the next open day starts at midnight, the next week starts Monday, and the next month on the first. Please see this article for a full explanation.
2) Minor update regarding private images in public groups.
3) World Photography Day 2025.

4) Real world meeting in Saarburg.
The next ipernity meetup in the real world will take place from September 12 to September 14 in Saarburg, Germany. All members are invited to participate. If interested then look in this group for details about the programme and how to register.
5) PHOTON-Festival in Saarland.
For the first time ever, ipernity will have a booth at a photography festival. This outreach effort is thanks to Andreas, Corinne and Bernhard who will be staffing the booth. See details here.
6) Server overload update.
As we continue to have server slow down issues, we would like add to the previous suggestion of reloading or refreshing pages that don’t initially load quickly. If reloading and refreshing doesn’t give enough relief from the waiting, we suggest you wait 15 -30 minutes Before returning then to try the website again. The reason this might work is that while the servers are still being over extended most of the time, viewing our server data, we can see that, after the programming we have put in place, major server overloads tend to happen in 5-20 minute spurts and between 2-5 times a day.
Current steps the team is taking towards mitigating the problem:
After the support from an earlier outside person didn’t work out, we are now in conversation with someone else who has given us some new ideas. We are waiting for their possible support to test implementing a couple of them. If anyone is interested in more technical details, please send an ipermail to the team.
One of their suggestions is to use the Cloudflare company which is something we had already looked into. To use that company would involve an ongoing monthly fee. Our initial check showed this fee to be very expensive, however to confirm this we will be calling in early August to clarify the cost for our specific situation and to see if what they offer can accommodate ipernity’s setup.
7) In memoria.
Your ima team.
69 comments
Gary Schotel said:
Jaap van 't Veen replied to Gary Schotel:
Manuel Wesser replied to Gary Schotel:
Wenn wir das Ideal des freien Zuganges für Alles und Jeden zu den Inhalten von Ipernity aufrecht erhalten wollen und dafür einen Service nutzen der übermäßige Nutzung durch unerwünschte Besucher einschränkt.
Indirekt finanziert man mit solchen Geldern das Training von künstlicher Intelligenz die dann kommerziell eingesetzt wird, weil sie weiterhin Zugang haben wird und sich bereits jetzt in keiner Weise um die erteilten Lizenzen kümmert.
Die Verursacher des Problems wird man ja leider nicht zu Kasse bitten können, ihnen den Zugang verwehren sollte aber einfacher möglich sein, als einen Dienstleister dafür zu bezahlen der dauerhaft seinen zugegebenermaßen guten Service bezahlt haben will.
Es ist ein Unterschied ob man viel Geld für Ausbildung/ Ausrüstung oder Reiseziele ausgibt an und mit denen man Freude hat. Oder ob man es ohne einen kreativen Gegenwert für einen Service ausgibt, der einen regulierten Service realisiert um unangemessene Nutzung zu reduzieren.
Die Reise schafft Erinnerungen, die Ausrüstung gibt einem die Möglichkeit die Fotografie zu erleben. Gemessen daran wird es schwer regelmäßig mehr Geld für den Betrieb von Ipernity einzuwerben.
Wenn du zu einem Verein gehst, kein Mitglied bist und mit deinen Freunden zusammen den ganzen Tag lang das Gebäude belagerst und die Mitglieder selbst den Verein kaum noch nutzen können wird man in der physischen Welt sein Hausrecht ausüben und zur Not mit der Polizei klare Verhältnisse schaffen.
Leider haben wir im Internet keine solche Möglichkeit, aber wir können die Tür zuschließen und nur Personen/ Einrichtungen den Zugang gewähren die unsere Konditionen akzeptieren. Wer dann dagegen verstößt könnte gesperrt werden - automatisch anhand von Regeln die man definiert.
Cloudflare und ähnliche Services sind sinnvoll für Unternehmen deren Zugang zu ihren Online Services für sie selbst oder ihre Kunden relevant ist, dort kann man zumeist keine grundsätzliche Zugangsbeschränkung realisieren. Wie bei Nachrichtenportalen die sich über Werbung finanzieren und ohne Anmeldedaten dafür Informationen präsentieren.
Ich bezweifle, das Ipernity in diesem Umfang wie es derzeit passiert auf anonyme Internetbesucher angewiesen ist und dafür diese riesige Menge an freien Inhalten bereitstellen muss.
Colin Ashcroft replied to Gary Schotel:
Günter Klaus said:
Pearl said:
C''est très bien qu'Ipernity soit présent sur un festival de la photographie. Cela pourra peut-être aussi favoriser la rencontre avec des personnes susceptible de nous apporter leur aide.
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Gary Schotel said:
Moderator replied to Gary Schotel:
Jo WaLo said:
* ઇଓ * replied to Jo WaLo:
If the photo communities you mentioned have not experienced similar issues so far, would it be too far-fetched to contact them to learn about their defensive measures and see if we could implement something similar?
I would also like to address this suggestion/question to the IMA team.
Moderator replied to :
As * ઇଓ * stated bot attacks are not just effecting our website. I'm happy that you aren't having issues on other websites you frequent, but that doesn't mean the issue isn't still occuring elsewhere. We noted this in the June Club News.
* ઇଓ * This is a good question.
First I would say that every website has its own configuration. What might work for one website may very well not work for another. We are especially in a narrow category of websites because we work with programming language that is not the most current. This and how all our servers are connected are some reasons places like Flickr's solutions probably wouldn't work the same way for us.
If we have a member that is also a member of another photo community, we would be happy for them to contact that community to ask them about this. This is not just up to the IMA team, and I don't know as any of us belong to any. I both doubt that another community would share information with ipernity as they could see us as competition, and also the team could use the support of our ipernity community to engage with ideas such as this.
As stated in prior Club News, anyone who wants to approach outside people to see if they have suggestions for solutions can reach out to the team to acquire the write up we have that explains our unique setup and situation.
Boarischa Krautmo said:
After that, we can talk about collecting additional money (and I would not hold off to contribute).
But starting a discussion on free access for third party users does lead us nowhere at all.
Moderator replied to Boarischa Krautmo:
* ઇଓ * replied to :
Regarding the possible competitive mindset: I understand this, even though I find it unfortunate that this is the case.
Please note that I am aware the competitive mindset currently hinders, if not prevents, cooperative collaboration and mutual support (not only) among the various photo communities. However, looking ahead to World Photo Day, I am hopeful that one day the competitive mindset will give way to benevolent, mutually beneficial cooperation.
I limit my own membership to ipernity, but I know several of our members are also part of the photography communities mentioned by Jo.
It would be great if efforts to establish external contacts for possible solutions to the AI bot attack problem could be intensified to provide our IT team with the best possible support.