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So you want to -- get help to navigate the sky
In the previous blog entry, I talked about the GOTO capabilities and the usefulness of computers to provide sky maps and provide easier accessible telescope controls. All those solutions are "blind" and here I will explain how to setup a combination of tools that will utilize your existing mount+camera setup and provide you with feedback on the telescope's actual position. And also automatically correct the position..

One caveat of all GOTO commands is their reliance on an accurately leveled & polar-aligned setup. This article doesn't advocate sloppy setup and I haven't tested it with a wildly unaligned, tilted mount but it is of great use, if you use a mobile setup and do a good job in getting it right but don't want to labor another hour to get from good to excellent (run drift-align).

As said in the introduction, this technique uses your existing imaging camera plus laptop, basically the same setup you already have in place, if you either use auto-guiding or control the camera from a PC to perform a sequence of exposures and review results on a "big" screen..
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System requirements & costs -- the (additional) cost is $0 and if your laptop already can talk to your camera & telescope mount for auto-guiding, you are good to go. If not, adding two USB cables, one USB-to-RS232 adapter and maybe another RS232-to-mount cable is all you need. The second USB cable plugs into your camera, but you knew that
Disc-space requirements is a bit on the high side -- you need space to store all the stars in the sky. My setup uses 4.5GB, since I've downloaded very high-resolution maps. The narrower your telescope's FOV, the more detailed the maps need to be and thus the larger the installation. A SLR on a 700mm telescope has a wider FOV and requires a smaller set of maps than a 1/4" CCD on a 3500mm scope. For most laptops, 4.5GB of HD space isn't an issue.

How to obtain -- the tool goes by the odd name of "AstroTorilla" and the author explains the name because a tortilla wraps around the food you want to eat. Don't look to your nearby mexican restaurant to deliver this, instead head to SOURCEFORGE : sourceforge.net/projects/astrotortilla/
Choose the matching libraries -- I may have downloaded more than needed but with a 2350mm reflector + 1/2" CCD, the FOV is narrow. If in doubt, download more than needed. Later, when it comes to solving, narrowing down the FOV before starting to solve is way more important.
Follow the instructions to download & install -- that is pretty straight forward. If you want to peek under the hood, the Plate-Solver is a Linux-based astrometry tool and for it to work AstroTortilla installs a small Linux-to-Windows interface (Cygwin) in addition to the "tortilla" itself. All is automated. Download will take time -- especially if you choose a large set of maps.

How to use -- Don't get scared by the comment about the Linux-based astrometry tool. You don't have to deal with that -- that's where the tortilla wrapper comes in. The interface is a regular PC window with a number of entries you can adjust.



First things first -- top to bottom

FIRST you need to specify how to communicate with the mount.-- you can choose ASCOM and directly specify the mount's driver or choose ASCOM and use the generic hub. Using a hub has the advantage of enabling multiple programs to share access to the mount and that is what I want -- and with the GENERIC HUB that works very well. On the other hand, the POTH HUB isn't always reliable and tools like autoguiding use features, the POTH doesn't support. For solving & slew commands, I've used both options.
You can leave this blank / disconnected. The "current position" gives the solver a hint where to search but it isn't required. A wrong hint might even prolong the search.


SECOND you have to tell AstroTortilla how to acquire the images it should solve. It isn't picky, even allows you to choose files on a HD & screen capture. But for a more efficient use, a direct connection to a real camera and mount is recommended. AstroTortilla supports direct ASCOM camera drivers as well as using intermediaries like APT, Nebulosity & Maxim DL.
At the moment, I use a Canon SLR and have used APT successfully. Nebulosity + Canon SLR may be another option for me but APT has a couple of additional features I like, especially controlling the telescope mount and run Canon-exposures with different ISO and add mirror lock-up delays. Nebulosity has the edge over APT when it comes to image post-processing but its controls lack some of the SLR-specific options. The trial version of Nebulosity inserts diagonal strips into the image to encourage you to buy the full version That however, makes it impossible to test with AstroTortilla.
[update] APT plus a (one shot color) CCD-camera via ASCOM interface also is very successful in sending images to AstroTortilla and getting them solved.


THIRD -- setting the parameters for the solver. That's the part that can make or break your success with AstroTortilla and the settings shown above finally work with my camera and a variety of lenses. Solving now takes usually less than 30s. Occasionally ~120s. If you mess up focus, exposure or solver parameters, you can wait 30 minutes or more for the solver to finish crunching the numbers and still come up empty handed.


The combination of APT & AstroTortilla did a lot to improve my satisfaction with the astronomy setup I have and also helped me to accelerate good, mechanical polar alignment. avoiding long drift-align procedures or crawl down underneath the telescope to look through the polar-scope : /stargazer95050/28462461
Instead of using the polar-scope, I use APT + AstroTortilla. But this time, I set the mount into "zero" position and STOP THE MOUNT from tracking. Now, the telescope is supposed to point at the Celestial North Pole and the solver will calculate the offset. You can use the mechanical adjustments to improve the initial alignment -- with practice, you will even recognize the East-West tilt in your tripod legs and might adjust them : /stargazer95050/28534127

Here is an example of using APT + AstroTortilla -- video is in realtime therefore you need a little patience. But watch for the movement at the end. That's where AstroTortilla makes the necessary correction : /stargazer95050/28668501

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[updated] 2014-05-25
1st release -- Dec 2013

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1 comment

Stargazer95050 said:

ASTROTORTILLA plus either APT, Nebulosity or direct ASCOM interface is nice but the underlying astrometry module / plate solver can do more
There is another useful tool, Sequence Generator Pro, that can utilize the ability of a local plate solver -- but the interface is different. SGP wants to talk to web-servers. When imaging, that's not always practical but with a few steps, it is possible to turn your existing AstroTortilla installation into a WEB-SERVER : SGP also offers other tools to do similar or maybe even a superior job (but PINPOINT costs $199 -- not sure if the license is portable)

Satisfied with my local Astrometry installation, I rather keep that instead of adding one or more multi-GB tools ===> I'll update this after I have tested the SGP & AstroTortilla combo.

SGP uses
- Elbrus (free, likely similar to AstroTortilla)
- Pinpoint ($199)
- Astrometry.NET: (ONLINE ONLY)
- more of a DIY approach : local Astrometry / AstroTortilla (FREE, OFFLINE)
10 years ago