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moving along and moving on ...


Albums ...

I'm pleased to report that I now have eleven complete albums here on ipernity for you folks to hopefully enjoy. The two most recent ones showcase the York Historic Vehicle Group Rally in 2011 and the Yorkshire Classic Car Show in 2012.

As in previous bulletins, simply click on the album covers below to view the complete set of images now online.





Groups ...

I'm now administering 11 groups here on ipernity. The latest one of my own I've started is Kit, Component and Replica Cars, but I've also 'acquired' two other groups that were already in existence: American Classic Cars and Foreign Classics and Transport World.

Please click on the links to visit them if you've not already done so.


Other news ...

Despite the great progress I feel I'm making with regards my own photostream, I've been disappointed to see how many of the people that moved across from flickr following its revamp haven't stuck with the great alternative that is ipernity.

Even sadder has been the sight of people who have stuck with it until now deciding to leave ipernity, either to go back to flickr or to try other sites.

The main reason people give for the move isn't that they don't prefer the user experience here. No, they all agree that ipernity is easier to use, quicker to load and much more user friendly. They also find the customer service better and yet they're still leaving!

Why? Simply because they are disillusioned with the number of visitors they're getting here, that's all, they’re simply not seeing enough activity when compared to flickr.

Now putting to one side for a moment the question of how much faith you can put in flickr's statistics since its revamp, can't people see that this is like anything else in life, you get out of it what you put in and nothing comes easy.

You need to put yourself about a bit, comment on other people's photos, add people onto your contacts so others know you have shared interests, join any existing groups that cater for the areas of photography that interest you and if those groups don't exist then start them yourself, but just don't start them go promote them as much as you can.

The sad fact is that if people don't stick around and make the effort then things will only get worse here. More people leaving means less activity thus making others feel they might be better off leaving too and so the self-fulfilling cycle continues.

Apologies for getting up onto my soapbox, I don't want to offend anyone, but I just find it so disappointing that people are acting the way they are. Even more so because I don't really have the option of going back to flickr as since the revamp it just runs so slowly on my internet connection that it's effectively unusable. Therefore, I have to stick with ipernity and I have to hope others do the same.

So come on guys, hang in there. This is a great product and there are some great people using it already, but we need more to join and we need those that are here to stay with it. Otherwise, ipernity will inevitably become betamax to flickr's VHS and that would be so sad indeed.

Regards

PAUL

10 comments

Indycaver (Norm) said:

Oh ... I always used these sites to store (backup) my better photos and some of those I share. I found visitors to my photos usually show up when there is something that interests them. I have one group that comments on the cars, and another on the abandoned buildings and farmsteads. I don't do flowers and I miss out on those folks. :-) I think most of my contacts that stayed behind are because of their contacts and friends there. I'm staying here and I'm pretty confident Yahoo will pull the plug on Flickr one of these days. They are pretty good about doing stuff like that!
10 years ago

autofantasia replied to Indycaver (Norm):

Interesting view on the future of flickr, I guess only time will tell. With regards ipernity, I for one am glad you're staying put Norm, but you forgot to mention the group that comment on the Chieftain mascots! ;)
10 years ago

Indycaver (Norm) replied to :

Oh ... I didn't forget ... I just lumped it in with the cars! :-) I did forget the guys shooting old film cameras though!
10 years ago

autofantasia replied to :

No apologies for sharing your thoughts required Mick, I agree with everything you've said with regards flickr and especially how valid the viewing statistics are.

And you're spot on about people just needing to get more organised with regards the move across. The problem so far is that people have tended to move across in isolation or at least in dribs and drabs resulting in them feeling they've left friends/contacts/followers behind. Then, when they feel there isn't the critical mass that flickr offered they either go back or move elsewhere ... aaghh!

Maybe someone should organise a mass move, an international "bye bye flickr" day!
10 years ago

Indycaver (Norm) replied to :

There was a bit of a mass move when I came on board and Ipernity was crawling there for a few weeks. :-)
10 years ago

Stan Askew said:

well said, Paul. thank you!
10 years ago

autofantasia replied to Stan Askew:

Thought you might agree Stan - nice to know others feel the same!
10 years ago

autofantasia said:

As a follow on of sorts to the discussion above. I'd thought the main reason people were moving away was because of the apparent low activity, but I've noticed in the last few days that there appears to be some people citing problems with the groups as their reason for going.

Not quite sure what the problem is, but there's something irritating them ... one of the few non-car groups I've joined closed today because the person that set it up has left and in doing so has closed down the group.

I also saw this earlier ...

www.ipernity.com/doc/303667/30393293
10 years ago

Indycaver (Norm) replied to autofantasia:

I think one of the problems with Ipernity is that changes to a contact's stream may not show up if the contact posts a new photo to an established album. It takes a little more work to visit photos and contacts to find out what's new. Honestly ... even though I belonged to groups on Flickr, and on Ipernity ... I'm not a big fan of them. You'd think they would bring common interests together, but that's not often the case ... even though they bring common photos together. I never had a high volume of comments and visits to my photos on Flickr and I guess I don't see any difference from here to there. I do remember when I first started Flickr it took a long time to get some regular visits and comments. I have found the international aspect on Ipernity interesting though ... even though I have to do some translating.
10 years ago

Treasa Ui Cionaodha said:

With all due respect I think you may have missed the most crucial reason why People and Groups are leaving Iperntiy. To get a feel for the real reasons you would need to read the Ipernity blog on their most recent decisions on what the main issues are for the exodus from IP. It arose when Ip decided to ban simple link backs to where and in what group you viewed an image. The issues are set out below and the blogg attests to the fact that the majority of members are dissatisfied with IP's interpretation of what is and is not spam.

A Majority of Members of Ipernity want the right to link back to where I saw an image in any optional form set out by a group. As said before what is the point of having ipernity groups at all if there is a continued ban on linking back to a group. ( for those who don’t want a link back they can chose there settings to avoid how comments appear on their page)
A continued lack or resolve of this issue has so far led to so many groups closing and many members leaving Ipernity. It is my opinion that if you do not address this issue finally and immediately many more will exit ipernity.
The reason is simple. No link back to where image was viewed equals a useless point to posting images to groups.
Regards Tess
10 years ago
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