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ipernity Copyright Protected vs. All Rights Reserved
Questions about our works since the European Parliament adopted the copyright reform
I have been here on ipernity a few months, and have 'dipped my toe in the water', so to speak, and now I am ready to jump in with both feet. I love the community here and believe in everything we are doing.

So I have a few questions that maybe we can talk about, so that we are all clear on this subject and recent developments with Copyrights.

I read in the IMA newsletter this paragraph: "On March 26, 2019, the European Parliament adopted the copyright reform, which had been subject of much controversy until recently. It does not affect ipernity as a non-commercial community in its entirety. Nevertheless, we would like to ask you again not to upload any copyright protected content."

Reference link www.ipernity.com/blog/team/4720614

In reading about the copyright reform, it seems this is much about creators and their commercial works, yes? So I'm wondering if the above paragraph is using the correct words, that it should say instead 'not to upload any commerical content'??

I'm think that you can have copyright protected works that is not commerical. Likewise, we have an option with our images to mark it as All Rights Reserved ... which doesn't mean that it's commercial, yes?

Because I sell my photography on another website, sometimes (like when I was on Flickr) if my works saw an interesting response I might convert it for sale on the art website .. but leave it on Flickr. So in the context of this post, if I did this then I would have to mark here on ipernity those images private to better comply with the copyright reform?

One of the reasons that helped me to decide to participate in the iperinty community is this sentence found in the FAQ: "Artist? We will offer you a great window on the world and tools to protect your creations." Reference Link: www.ipernity.com/help/faq/general#50 So I'm wondering if this sentence still holds true, or needs a tweak?

I don't seek to sell my photography on ipernity, and only share a link to my artwork in the space provided on my About page. I didn't think I was able to do more, but am I? Like post a link to my artist profile on the other site on each picture description (like Flickr allows if you are a pro member)? Again, I am here for the community, but do like to share my work across platforms when allowed.

So what do you know about all this, or do you have any thughts to add?

Thank you for reading,
Frank

frankjcasella.ipernity.com


14 comments

Mickey fez said:

Reading through the legal jargon and red tape makes my eyes boggle I would just like somebody to stand up and tell us if plain English what it all means
4 years ago

HaarFager replied to Mickey fez:

Me, too. The only trouble with that is, the site is French and who knows if a translation would be legally accurate?
4 years ago

Frank J Casella replied to Mickey fez:

Yes, so you and I are not alone in this it seems, Mickey.
4 years ago

Frank J Casella replied to :

Well somebody should translate it for us, or at least lets talk about what is acceptable on ipernity or not.
4 years ago

Jenny McIntyre said:

I am getting so tired of having different countries telling me what I can or can't do. This Brexit is driving me insane - like many I'm sure. I switch off the tv/radio as soon as anything political comes on - so I'm afraid I just can't imagine what your blog means. I am sorry - but I'm with Mickey here and wish they'd just stand up and tell us in plain English - yes you can do this - or no you can't do this!!
4 years ago

Frank J Casella replied to Jenny McIntyre:

Thanks Jenny. Like I said, the very basic would be that I'm wondering if the above paragraph is using the correct words, that it should say instead 'not to upload any commercial content' rather than copyright protected content. That would probably answer most of our questions.
4 years ago

HaarFager replied to :

Another thought: Technically, when we create something, whether it be writing or a photograph, it's automatically copyrighted to us. So you're right, that should read differently because everything we take a picture of and upload is technically already copyrighted to us.
4 years ago

Bee Orchid said:

Everything Jenny said! I'm not much help, sorry.
4 years ago

Sami Serola (inactiv… said:

Few things:

That IMA news flash seem to be a little misleading. What there is supposed to say is that do not infringe copyright by posting someone else's copyright protected images on your documents.

The EU Copyright Directive on the other hand is not just about commercial works. It is about sharing any works that may infringe someone else's copyright on commercial sites.

The main idea of the directive is to make the commercial service providers as responsible on any copyright infringements happening on their web sites. So, if for example I would post an image of some Disney character on my Facebook account, then the new directive could actually make not only me, but also Facebook as quilt on copyright infringement.

This directive is much of the same as was SOPA/PIPA case few years ago:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPA

However, because Ipernity is not a commercial service provider, we should have no reason to worry about it (weight on word should).
4 years ago

Frank J Casella replied to Sami Serola (inactiv…:

Thank you, Sami, understand now. I was hoping you would jump in this discussion. I can carry on as usual then ...
4 years ago

Sami Serola (inactiv… replied to :

Exactly =)

As well as we at ima team manage to understand this rather complex issue, it doesn't concern us as a service provider. But we still wish that all our members respect copyright.
4 years ago

Marta Wojtkowska said:

So they voted for it... Not surprising given how votes are placed.
4 years ago

Frank J Casella replied to Marta Wojtkowska:

Interesting …. thanks for letting me know. So now what?
4 years ago

Marta Wojtkowska replied to :

We'll see.
Six countries (Finland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Poland and Sweden) voted against it. Three countries (Belgium, Estonia and Slovenia) abstained. So we lost this battle, but it is not over. Europe is changing.
The next elections to the European Parliament are coming. In May 2019.
Maybe we'll have more votes in the parliament. Maybe we'll manage to get the directive readjusted.
If not, we'll be cunningly inventive when implementing the new law so that it harms people the least. At least in Poland. After we win the next elections here. Coming next October/November.
4 years ago